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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: one of the few honest politicians.. Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In before some asshat claims *all* politicians are full of shit... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bernie Sanders is a hack and disinformation agent of the new world order.

He introduced 604 to undermine 1207. He is a pawn of the new world order. There is only one revolutionary. Ron Paul.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Paul is all talk, no solutions.

Ok, so we get rid of the Federal Reserve. I'll agree that it's pretty much anti-democratic & has far too much power.

Then what? He never addresses anything further.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever thought about cutting the deficit? Has that concept ever crossed your mind? I doubt. Yeah lets spend more. Tea party is laying out 500 billion in spending cuts. Country will go into bankruptcy unless debt ceiling will need to be raised to 13 trillion. How about spend what you have. You should stop posting on politics until you have a clue. Spend what comes in.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free money is a farce, we might as well start flying the flag of china. The reality of tough economic choices need to be taken. Entitlement reform, tax reform and deficit reduction is the only choice. People want more big government, more welfare, more free entitlement. Thats why Obama and the socialist state will not change in 2012. Revolution.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want money?

Legalize 'soft' drugs & tax them, tax churches & other cults, end all subsidies over the next 5 years, end tax loopholes (like small buildings in Cayman where literally hundreds of businesses have their "headquarters"), impose tariffs on all imports, no additional welfare for having MORE babies, additional 50 cent per gallon gas tax (this will force better fuel efficiency & the $ can be used to develop 'green' technology, an industry where the U.S. has fallen embarrassingly behind), end all of the bullshit "wars" we're currently fighting, stop making defunct weapons, close unneeded military bases, etc.

That would be a good start.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your solution is tax everything and cut military spending. Spoken like a true naive liberal. The only thing you got right was no more welfare after the 5th baby. Good job. Those other 4 are good to go.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taxes are great when they are fairly paid/collected and the money properly spent.

Police, firefighters, trash/recycling collection, roads, schools, national parks, college tuition (with restrictions, such as minimum GPA), reasonable social programs, etc.



This is the alternative -


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voiceofTruth wrote:
Tea party is laying out 500 billion in spending cuts.


And supporting much more in tax cuts to the top 1%. If you're serious about reducing the deficit you (a) don't cut taxes in a time of record deficits, (b) do everything you can to restore growth (the vast majority of the deficit this year is lost revenue and increased non-discretionary), and (c) lay out SPECIFIC spending cuts. The last is something the tea party is yet to do, instead just mouthing about "cut entitlements".

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Country will go into bankruptcy unless debt ceiling will need to be raised to 13 trillion. How about spend what you have.


The US budget isn't your checkbook, and your ignorance is astounding. With both corporations and homes deleveraging right now and a trade deficit you can either run a deficit, or shrink the size of the economy. That's pretty much an identity fact of economics.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voiceofTruth wrote:
Free money is a farce, we might as well start flying the flag of china.


You mean have the economy that's doing best right now? Or are you just making another false equivalency?

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The reality of tough economic choices need to be taken. Entitlement reform

That's a non-statement, say what you mean. Do you mean cut social security?

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tax reform and deficit reduction


And extensions of the Bush tax cuts are your solution to this? Laughable.

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Thats why Obama and the socialist state will not change in 2012.


Learn what fucking socialism is. You and the rest of the teabaggers sound like fucking idiots misusing a very well defined term.

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Revolution.


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"As I listen to health care opponents talking about rising up and revolution I guess my one thought is - bring it on. Let's fucking do this. I'm kinda sick of their shit. We have guns too. If passing health care forces them to throw bricks through my window, then what does throwing bricks through my window force me to do to them? I mean, I don't wanna fight, but now I guess I kinda wanna do."
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voiceofTruth wrote:
There is only one revolutionary. Ron Paul.


And Mohammed is his prophet?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With both corporations and homes deleveraging right now and a trade deficit you can either run a deficit, or shrink the size of the economy


This is not set in stone. Why does deficit spending and growth need to go hand and hand. Its time to start doing things differently.
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