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What happend to your scene in NYC?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's NOT the old NYC anymore.

That is what happened.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cormoll wrote:
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You missed the NYC nightlife scene by over a decade. It's so bad it's fucking embarrassing right now.



i keep hearing this over and over. what was the cause of this? surely its not just a few clubs closing and mayor Giuliani's cabaret licence?


Yes, it didn't help, but we are seeing the effects of what happens slowly as a result of this and the following:

The close of Coney Island High, The Wetlands, Baktun, Mother, and more that were mainstay's of NYC DnB/Club culture. Giuliani's crack down on dancing didn't make it fun to be out.

9/11 scared people away. Also outlaws vanished and places like the Brooklyn Anchorage were closed for security reasons.

People got older/jobs that were not conducive to nightlife.

Younger people's tastes changed; see "Emo".

New clubs that popped up either catered to bottle service or didn't have an owner that was willing to work with a promoter/patrons.


NYC promoters know wtf they're doing, it's the city and the people itself that have made the situtation what it is.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: What happend to your scene in NYC? Reply with quote

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I've only been here for 3 years but why is the NYC drum and bass scene one of the worst out of the big cities in the world? I'm not trying to piss anyone off but this is pathetic?


NYC is a House, Techno, and Hip Hop town.

Sorry you're late to the game.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could just be that the crowd that all went out during the "prime" of the NYC drum and bass era are a bit older now, have families, moved, or just can't be bothered to be out in a club anymore.

It's like the era of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Dominique Wilkins, Clyde Drexler, Karl Malon, etc.... that was the best era of the NBA and was glad to be part of that. Such is the way of drum and bass, it peaked 8 years ago.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cormoll wrote:
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You missed the NYC nightlife scene by over a decade. It's so bad it's fucking embarrassing right now.


i keep hearing this over and over. what was the cause of this? surely its not just a few clubs closing and mayor Giuliani's cabaret licence?



I think it started with the bust of William Pickard and Clyde Apperson in 2000.

Hate it or love it - LSD plays a huge role in a city's "rave" scene. And after those 2 men got busted - the DEA reported a 95% decrease in the availability of LSD. In addition there were huge crack downs on ecstasy during that time too. But you know what didn't go away? Coke. And there was plenty of it to go around. And we all know Coke is the asshole drug. And everyone became assholes and the fun loving party scene died.

But recently - all the mind opening and fun loving Tryptamine Alkaloids are back in full force. And the party scene if finally getting back to it's fun loving ways. In 2008, 2009, and 2010 - I have been to some of the best parties of my life. So I wouldn't say the fun loving party scene in NYC is dead - it's just keeping a low profile.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is all still happening but you will not find it on this board and this board alone.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also... this coming Tuesday:



there will be lots of loose women.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eshin wrote:
also... this coming Tuesday:


there will be lots of loose women.



LOL!

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Citizen Kang wrote:
cormoll wrote:
DifferentDrummer wrote:
You missed the NYC nightlife scene by over a decade. It's so bad it's fucking embarrassing right now.


i keep hearing this over and over. what was the cause of this? surely its not just a few clubs closing and mayor Giuliani's cabaret licence?



I think it started with the bust of William Pickard and Clyde Apperson in 2000.

Hate it or love it - LSD plays a huge role in a city's "rave" scene. And after those 2 men got busted - the DEA reported a 95% decrease in the availability of LSD. In addition there were huge crack downs on ecstasy during that time too. But you know what didn't go away? Coke. And there was plenty of it to go around. And we all know Coke is the asshole drug. And everyone became assholes and the fun loving party scene died.

But recently - all the mind opening and fun loving Tryptamine Alkaloids are back in full force. And the party scene if finally getting back to it's fun loving ways. In 2008, 2009, and 2010 - I have been to some of the best parties of my life. So I wouldn't say the fun loving party scene in NYC is dead - it's just keeping a low profile.

Cool



yep, elephant in the room is what drugs are available. i def became a junglist on acid lol.

coke is still WAY too big... shit is gross...

but whatever, i go to mad awesome parties...

all genres are dead anyways, its all about the mixup, like real rave should
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yep, elephant in the room is what drugs are available. i def became a junglist on acid lol.

coke is still WAY too big... shit is gross...


You don't find it profound?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Citizen Kang wrote:
cormoll wrote:
DifferentDrummer wrote:
You missed the NYC nightlife scene by over a decade. It's so bad it's fucking embarrassing right now.


i keep hearing this over and over. what was the cause of this? surely its not just a few clubs closing and mayor Giuliani's cabaret licence?



I think it started with the bust of William Pickard and Clyde Apperson in 2000.

Hate it or love it - LSD plays a huge role in a city's "rave" scene. And after those 2 men got busted - the DEA reported a 95% decrease in the availability of LSD. In addition there were huge crack downs on ecstasy during that time too. But you know what didn't go away? Coke. And there was plenty of it to go around. And we all know Coke is the asshole drug. And everyone became assholes and the fun loving party scene died.

But recently - all the mind opening and fun loving Tryptamine Alkaloids are back in full force. And the party scene if finally getting back to it's fun loving ways. In 2008, 2009, and 2010 - I have been to some of the best parties of my life. So I wouldn't say the fun loving party scene in NYC is dead - it's just keeping a low profile.

Cool


This had a huge influence on the scene's health for sure.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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all genres are dead anyways, its all about the mixup, like real rave should


Yep. Nice to dance to a little of everything throughout the night
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eshin wrote:
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Citizen Kang wrote:
human? wrote:

all genres are dead anyways, its all about the mixup, like real rave should


Yep. Nice to dance to a little of everything throughout the night



Human? I love you man, but you're on some shit shit bro...

When you had your dreads you were a die hard Ragga-Jungle-Dubwise FANATIC. You cut them off and became a Multi-Genre Bassline DJ. Which is all good, but not all genres are dead bro.

The problem is most of the scene is less consistent and people only want to come out for FREE parties, headliners that haven't been here in years, or simply put, special events where they are guaranteed a good time. The weeklies are really hard to keep consistent with any genre, here or anywhere that may not be LA (Movement, Swerve, and Grace all have had a tough time in the UK). Which is a whole other story, LA is a place that has beautiful weather all year round and that is saying a lot just with that alone. Not to mention the laws are different and they have lot's of space to throw huge events.

I wouldn't say all genres are dead, mixing it up is just trendy again. I've been there and done all that in the early 90's. Now it happens to be cool again to mix it up...

Minimal-Techno is trendy again you know, that genre dissapeared off the map for well over a decade if I'm not mistaken.

It's just a cycle at the end of the day. What goes around comes around, what's old is new again and so forth. D&B happens to be at a low point now, and like someone else mentioned before... All these little crews trying to do their own thing doesn't really help either, it just dilutes whatever we have left of the scene even more. Same thing will start to happen with Dubstep now, more dj's and crews will come in to make it rise and eventually bring it down under. It's a full cycle that repeats itself with all genres of music, just like fashion.

Also, I forgot to mention live music and bands are back in style and that's what a lot of ex-EDM enthusiasts have gone back to. The live sound.

I think the D&B scene in NYC (whatever is left of it right now) has too many wannabe chiefs and not enough loyal indians. DJ's, promoters, and party goers that segregate themselves to be a part of their own clique, scene, etc., etc. And not just with D&B, with every genre. At the end of the day, it's all good though, we just have to enjoy and be thankful for whatever we have, and hope for better days.
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