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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: The Nazi state of Arizona Reply with quote

its a shame that such a beautiful and amazing state,place in the world,with an amazing human history,including aztec, that dates back 13,000 years, could end up implementing the first true act of domestic terrorism for 2010.

ok so theres about 8 million undocumented mexican-native american day laborers in america,tops. theres over 45 million american citizen latinos/hispanics of mixed european native american and african descent in america.


hypothetically,and legally,if this bill is authorized nationwide, it would mean that 45+ million american citizens could be terrorised,harrassed,and legally discriminated against on a daily basis,in their own country of origin or legal status. daily basis. would they implement holding pens to deal with busy days? could they literally pull you out of your place of employment ,or schooling,on a daily basis,all in the name of catching those undocumented. could they legally raid your own business establishment whenever they feel like it,driving away loyalty and business? could they legally establish checkpoints wherever they want,including at intersections and entrances of major targeted communities,regardless of the suspected or known population of undocumented? yes for all.

nazi germany in full effect in arizona.

i know the ron paul bots/teabaggers/birthers/republicans will come out and obviously support this violation of the constitution,because most of them still believe that a black man is only 3/4ths of a man,aka not a citizen,aka not able to vote or be president.

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yes to amnesty for those here,fix the borders, and shut this bill down.


arizona is also the state that got rid of martin luther king day,until there was enough public outcry.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and obviously,we can expect "citizens arrests" to include suspection of "immigration status" of anyone who is latino ,or even looks latino.
so with this bill, any citizen can detain anyother person,even if its a citizen,because immigration status is suspected.
and we all know about 50 percent dont want latinos here,even legally.
by 2050 america will be majority latino,peacefully,on the part of the latinos.


and with arizona's recent bill which now allows anyone with a handgun or weapon to carry that weapon ,concealed and without a permit,you can expect the legalized lynchings and hate murders to start.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

california: marijuana legalization
arizona: skin color violation
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: The Nazi state of Arizona Reply with quote

It's way more complicated than you're presenting it as. And don't fuck with AZ, I live here.

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its a shame that such a beautiful and amazing state,place in the world,with an amazing human history,including aztec,


No, not Aztec. The Pueblo peoples were far different than the Aztec/Mexical.


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ok so theres about 8 million undocumented mexican-native american day laborers in america,tops.


11 million is the usual estimate.

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hypothetically,and legally,if this bill is authorized nationwide


It's a state bill, there's no chance of that. And yes, this bill is odious, invasive, and almost certainly unconstitutional. It's also going to be a poison pill for the right wing, as it just gave the Latino demographic to the left for generations.

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i know the ron paul bots/teabaggers/birthers/republicans will come out and obviously support this violation of the constitution,because most of them still believe that a black man is only 3/4ths of a man,aka not a citizen,aka not able to vote or be president.


Their silence on this is deafening, further showing that their motivations are racial and cultural, not the taxes or civil liberties they claim.

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yes to amnesty for those here,fix the borders, and shut this bill down.


There's a large movement to do so - if we're unsuccessful at getting the (unelected) conservative governor to not sign it Arizona does have a referendum process that will begin immediately - it will not be difficult to get enough signatures to place this on the ballot.

Arizona is a purple/battleground state. Yes, the conservatives here are fucking nuts. However the cities/blue areas in the state are EXTREMELY progressive, moreso I'd say than many parts of the east coast. Especially the new crop of state politicians from 06 and 08 are not just democrats, but progressives and fighters, willing to take on the rural teabaggers and the LDS right wingers (the influence of the LDS in state politics here is large, there's a constant battle between the sizable mormon minority and the secular citizens).

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arizona is also the state that got rid of martin luther king day,until there was enough public outcry.


There's a whole long story behind that, mainly dealing with the insane Evan Mecham. Arizona politics are colorful to say the least.

Our politics also tend to be much more conservative than the people - unfortunately we are a bicameral legislative state, which means the (conservative) rural and suburban areas have a louder voice than they should in representation. And note this bill was done by the legislature, not initiative. It represents the GOP which is now full crazy trying to ram this through before they lose their majority (which has been decreasing for decades now).

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california: marijuana legalization
arizona: skin color violation



The culture war isn't limited to any part of the nation.

And gotta go - I'm heading down to the protest at the courthouse regarding this issue. It's not going without a fight.

If you want to help - contact the AZ governor at http://www.azgovernor.gov/contact.asp. She hasn't taken a position because she's shit scared of the fallout either way, so the more people EVEN OUTSIDE THE STATE weighing in the more likely this bill is not to become law.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.examiner.com/x-9542-Phoenix-Congressional-Oversight-Examiner~y2010m4d23-NeoNazi-supporters-behind-controversial-Arizona-ID-law




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2008/01/nuremburg_redux_russell_pearce.php
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2006-10-19/news/mesa-muttonhead/full
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2006-10-19/news/mesa-muttonhead/full


Fucking Mormons - we should have just given them Utah in the 19th century to keep their weird cult out of politics.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yep. got the quote up on FB - "What's a smilin' face when the whole state's racist?"

Fucking embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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These illegal immigrants are invaders who carry Mexican Flags in protests on the streets, which are paid for by the U.S. taxpayer. Many of these invaders are filling up our federal prisons. In fact 30% of the violent criminals in Federal Prisons are illegal aliens and the Arizona State prison system as 38 percent illegal aliens. That is to say illegal aliens that are not schools to be here the first place and again costing taxpayers millions of dollars.

We could better spend this money giving scholarships to U.S. citizens to go to college. It costs seven times as much to put in illegal alien prison as it does to send and reward a good student with a scholarship. The congressman and senators who conveniently when on vacation during the heated debate over illegal aliens and illegal immigration have failed to uphold the U.S. Constitution to protect our borders from foreign invaders

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this gets signed into law, the state legislators and governor should be required to serve out the rest of their terms in white robes & hoods
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love how enforcing the constitution is racism to you retards. If this was going on with Canadians it would be the same thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voiceofTruth wrote:
I love how enforcing the constitution is racism to you retards. If this was going on with Canadians it would be the same thing.


WHERE THE FUCKS ARE YOUR WORRIES ABOUT GOVERNMENT "TYRANNY" NOW YOU HYPOCRITICAL FUCK? Seriously, you sit here whining for 2 years about how Obama is Hitler, but with a law that actually violates the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments with blatant fascist zeal and your idiotic mind thinks "OK!".

And this is why nobody takes you or your idiotic REVOLUTION seriously. Because you don't mean what you say, you're obviously just the same stupid shits who followed Wallace. Something brilliantly illustrated here:

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This law actually forces (yes, forces, even the police were against it) the police to target Latinos (many of which have been in the state longer than most whites here). Mainly to support the blatant racism of east valley mormons. Which is exactly why this ISN'T going on with Canadians.

Human smuggling is a problem for AZ (most illegals don't stay here), because as the laws have gotten tougher the people involved have become meaner. The cartels are now getting involved, and this law will only encourage it.

Oh, and thanks for again not giving a source above. Stops me from the temptation to show exactly how wrong your figures are. However the term "invaders" makes me think it probably originated from Stormfront. As did many of the mailings from the sponsor of that bill, Russell Pearce. Please try and claim it's not about race, as it obviously is.

http://www.longislandwins.com/index.php/blog/post/colbert_nation_arizona_anti-immigrant_law-no_problemo/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Amendment 14, Section 1 - "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."



lets go into naturalization

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The two references in the Constitution that specifically mention , "naturalization, " are found in Article I, Section 8 in creating the authority of the Congress, "To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization." Thus from a Constitutional stand point it is the responsibility of Congress to establish all laws and rules of naturalization or immigration.

The second reference is located in the 14th Amendment shown above stating that , "All persons born or naturalized in the United States," are, "citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The key thought in the 14th Amendment which along with several other provisions established in the Constitution shows that the intent of the Framers was that citizens of the United States whether born or naturalized are granted the rights and privileges that are available in America.

While Congress has the Constitutional authority to establish laws of naturalization or immigration they do not have the power create blanket legislation that allows non - citizens the rights of born or naturalized Americans.

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